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“Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord. ” Isaiah 1:18

“Study to shew Thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the work of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15.

PLEASE READ THE ARTICLES UNDER THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OR PAGES TO THE RIGHT AND PRAYERFULLY CONSIDER WHAT TRUTH YOU CAN GLEEN FROM THEM.  AS IMPORTANT AS THIS SUBJECT MAY BE I WISH NO DIVISION IN THE BODY OF CHRIST OVER IT (THE TIMING OF THE RAPTURE OF HIS CHURCH).  LET BROTHERS WALK TOGETHER IN LOVE AND HARMONY WHO MAY HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS ON THE LAST DAYS AND KEEP SALVATION FOR THE LOST THE PREMIERE CONVICTION TO WHICH WE ALL AGREE AND STRIVE TO ACCOMPLISH.  AT THE SAME TIME LET US “STUDY TO SHEW  THYSELF APPROVED UNTO GOD, ” 2 TIM. 2:15.  I WILL PRESENT MY CONVICTIONS IN THE FOLLOWING ARTICLES AND HAVE LINKS TO OTHER IMPORTANT SOURCES. MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND EMPOWER YOU WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT…Acts1:8

“But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”

This blog is dedicated to those who wish to study the End Times in more depth and in particular the Imminent return of our LORD JESUS CHRIST in a Pre-Tribulation context.  Maranatha or Our Lord Come!!  If you are a brother or sister that does not agree with this position please don’t be offended, don’t discount it totally and don’t leave this blog without reading what I have labored to study for the past over forty years.  Please do consider the arguments under each Category, do labor to increase your study of what you believe based on the Scriptures and do encourage others to study this subject also. To the right are books I recommend for study and if you click on them and follow the links you can order your own copy.   MARANATHA

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Objections to Pre-Trib View

  • "Those who believe in the Pre-Trib Rapture are just Escapists" ? Just tell them “if the Scripture fits, I’ll wear it!"   Luke 21:36 says “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. (Luke 21:36 (KJV)) “ Further the word for escape in Greek, may very well mean TO VANISH OUT OF PLACE AND TIME. According to Strong’s dictionary." The Greek word  is ἐκφεύγω, ek-fyoo'-go and the root is from 'ek' and 'fyoo-go'. Ek meaning a primary preposition denoting origin (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, and fyoo-go, a primary verb; to run away (literal or figurative); by implication to shun; by analogy to vanish:- escape, flee (away).-Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary. The implication is clear here that to 'escape' could be interpreted TO VANISH OUT OF PLACE AND TIME. We who believe that the rapture will occur before the Tribulaion do not believe that  we will escape the Tribulation because we are cowards or not aware of what the Scripture teaches, but rather it is because we believe that is what Jesus taught and the Word says.
  • "The Pre-Trib Rapture view was invented by John Darby in 1830" Post Tribbers will insist that the Pre-Trib Rapture view was invented not 200 years ago in 1830 by John Nelson Darby a Plymouth Bretheran Minister. That the Pre-Trib view was not heard of before that, there is no evidence of anyone thinking that way before that, and that the Post Trib view is the only one the Church believed since the Apostles.  You can tell them "HOGWASH" The facts are all of these statements are wrong and if you study up you can tell them why.  I will be posting the facts on this on an ongoing basis on page 4: Early Rapture Statements, but untill then search Pseudo Ephraem who lived in the 4th century or visit www.bibleprophesy.org/ancient.htm  and if the sermon does not come up go to the bottom of the page and select #1 Pseudo-Ephraem's Pre-tribulation Rapture Statement, where his entire sermon is posted and I quote him in Section 2 saying "For all the saints and elect of God are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins. And so, brothers most dear to me, it is the eleventh hour, and the end of the world comes to the harvest, and angels, armed and prepared, hold sickles in their hands, awaiting the empire of the Lord."
  • "You mean you believe in two comings? (of the Lord)"........You may here this question from those who beleive in the Post-Tribulation Rapture of the Church.  Don't let them surpise or stump you with this statement intended to "put you in your place". ANSWER 'YES I DO, ONCE IN THE HEAVENS FOR HIS CHURCH AND ONCE TO THE EARTH TO SAVE ISRAEL AND JUDGE THE NATIONS.'  And if you want to add 'JUST LIKE I THINK THE SCRIPTURES TEACH. HOW ABOUT YOU?' There are so many differences in the Rapture of the Chuch and the Second Coming to earth that to say they are the same is dishonest.. Buy the way if they have trouble with a Rapture separate from the Second Advent ask them if they have trouble with the Two Witnesses who are told to 'come up here' in Rev.11:12, or the 144,000 who are caught up or 'redeemed' from the earth in Rev.14:1-4. Ask them why they don't think that a rapture separate from the Second Advent can happen as it did for Enoch and Elijah, as it did for Jesus.  Tell them 'I WOULD NOT BE GUILTY OF SAYING 'GOD CAN'T DO IT.'

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Beware of non-scriptural Post-Trib Statements

There are some beliefs that Post-Tribulationists have that are stated as if they can be directly supported by Scripture. Many times they are the beliefs of the teachers inserted into the teaching so that the Post-trib view can fit into future events. These teachers don't seam to have a problem with this. They change what they must think are little things here and there and then consider it all to be 'cannon', part of the inspired Word of God !! They wonder how we as Pre-Tribulationists come up with a different view?
The end is that Post Tribulationists have to jump through a whole lot more 'hoops' than Pre-Tribulationists to arrive at their conclusions.. I myself reject any view that has eisegesis (reading into scripture rather than get out of scripture what is there, exegesis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis ) because this is not accepted Biblical Interpretation (hermeneutics)
I will address some of these views in my articles. Even in the Pre-Trib camp I will also be honest by saying ‘we just don’t know, there is not enough information in Scripture to support one conclusion to some ideas but the possibilities are…' and will state it’s just a possibility) Perhaps I will develop a page on these Post-Tribulational 'theories'. For example one such view, that many Post Tribulationists hold in some variation, is that the Seals, Trumpets and Bowls of wrath in Revelation are concurrent, all starting at the same time and all ending at the Second Advent of Chirst. This is interpreted this way to allow the catching up of the saints to occur at the 7th trump in Rev 11:15 as well as in Rev 14:16 where "And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped" said to be the rapture and the gathering of the elect after Christs return. This they say is stated in Matt 24:31 "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." This gathering happens after Christ returns to earth in verse 30 so how can He come with his army that was in Heaven if He has not gathered them yet? He can't! Rather than twist scripture like that it would be better to believe in the Pre-Tribulation view which fits the literal intrepretation of the Bible if you properly understand the Pre-Trib view. I have not found one Post-Trib believer that has demonstrated he understands the depth of teaching of the Pre-Trib view. I labor to read and study all I can about the Post-Trib view and will try to honestly evaluate what I learn. This is not a hollow statement.
The Lord has my wife and I and our 5 children connected to a very fine ministry that is Post-Trib and that most of its emphasis is based on that. All of our ministry (prayer, intercession for revival, feeding the poor) is still valid with a Pre-Trib view and since we don't know how much persecution and hard times there will be before the 'Tribulation' begins, even in the Pre Tribulational context, preparing for trouble in every way is only wise.

John & Kim Hislop

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